मी जात मानत नाही पण… 

गेल्या महिन्यात विद्यापीठातील एका कोर्सच्या विद्यार्थ्यांना ‘भूजल आणि सामाजिक-राजकीय व्यवस्था’ या विषयावर लेक्चर देत असतांना एका विद्यार्थिनीने ‘भूजलाचा अभ्यास करतांना अभ्यासकाच्या पोझीशनॅलिटी चा काही परिणाम होतो का? असे विचारले. हे काय नवीन लफडं आहे- तुम्ही विचाराल? पोझीशनॅलिटी म्हणजेच एखाद्या व्यक्तीच्या सामाजिक-राजकीय-विचारधारा-जात- वर्ण- लिंग यांचा त्याच्या अभ्यासावर किंवा त्याच्या अभ्यासाच्या विषयाबद्दल असलेल्या दृष्टिकोनाबद्दल होणार परिणाम. तुम्ही काबुल करा किंवा नका करू पण याचा परिणाम होत असतो. उदाहरणाने स्पष्ट करतो- मी जेव्हा phd चे माझे क्षेत्रकार्य उस्मानाबाद मधील काही गावांमध्ये करत होतो तेव्हा मला गावामधील पारावर, टपऱ्यांवर जाऊन पुरुषांशी (अश्या ठिकाणी शक्यतो पुरुषच असतात) गप्पा मारता येत होत्या. आता हे सहज वाटत असले तरी पुरुष म्हणून मला त्या जागा (स्पेस- स्पेसेस) सहज ऍक्सेसिबल- रिचेबल वाटल्या – तिथे जाण्याविषयी कसलाही संकोच बाळगण्याची गरज वाटली नाही. यामध्ये मी पुरुष आहे म्हणून मला ते सहज वाटले हे नमूद करणे महत्वाचे आहे. तसेच तिथे बसलेल्या मंडळींना म्हणजेच पुरुषांना याबद्दल काही वेगळे किंवा नवल वाटले नाही कारण हि एक ‘सहज’ प्रक्रिया होती. पण एक स्त्री अभ्यासिका (ती जाऊ शकतेच यात वाद नाही) अश्या जागांना सहज ऍक्सेस करू शकेल असे वाटत नाही. याला म्हणतात एखाद्याच्या पोझिशन-पोझीशनॅलिटी चा त्या अभ्यासावर होणार परिणाम. यामध्ये फक्त अभ्यासक म्हणून तुम्हीच नाही तर ज्याच्याबरोबर तुम्ही तो अभ्यास करताय त्यांच्या विचारांचा, दृष्टिकोनाचा परिणाम देखील होत असतो.  

तर त्या वर्गामध्ये विचारलेल्या प्रश्नावर मी जातीचा आणि वर्गाचा परिणाम भूजलाच्या उपलब्धतेवर किंवा ऍक्सेस वर कसा होतो हे समजावून सांगितले. हे सांगतांना माझ्या जन्मजात जातीचा (ब्राह्मण) उल्लेख करून मी सहज बोलून गेलो- ‘मी जात मानत नाही’. माझी धारणा हीच की जर मी जात मानत नाही तर त्यामुळे त्याचा परिणाम माझ्या दृष्टिकोनावर आणि अभ्यासावर होणार नाही. पण तसे नाहीए. फक्त तुम्ही जात मानून किंवा न मानून चालणार नाही. कारण जात ही एक सामाजिक व्यवस्था आहे. त्यामुळे तुम्ही जरी त्याचा धिक्कार केला तरी ज्या समाजात तुम्ही वावरता त्यामध्ये त्याचा उपयोग (लौकिक दृष्ट्या नाही जरी) होत असतो म्हणून तर तुमची त्यातून सुटका नाही. सहज आपल्या लहानपणीच्या मित्र-मैत्रिणींची नाव-आडनाव आठवून बघा. आपण केलेले लग्न/जोडीदार , आपल्या मुलांवरील संस्कार, याकडे लक्ष दिले तर सहज लक्षात येते की आपण एका व्यवस्थेचे भाग आहोत म्हणून आपल्या ‘चॉइसेस’ ह्या ‘फ्री विल’ वगैरे नसून त्या ठराविक साच्यातून-संबंधांमधून निर्माण झालेल्या असतात. जात हे त्यातील एक वास्तव. हे वास्तव तुम्ही जरी नाकारले तरी ज्या समाजात तुम्ही राहता, वावरता त्यामध्ये त्याला किंमत आहे, उपयोगिता आहे (अर्थात, तुम्ही जर एकटे एखाद्या गुहेत वगैरे जाऊन राहिलात तर सोडून द्या).  जातीशी माझा संबंध आणि अनुभव काय ते यानिमित्ताने मांडतोय. त्याचा पाणी, शेती अश्या नैसर्गिक किंवा टेक्निकल समजल्या जाणाऱ्या गोष्टींशी कसा संबंध येतो ते देखील थोडक्यात मांडतोय.  

म्हणतात ना- ब्युटी लाईज इन द आईज ऑफ द बिहोल्डर. PhD ला यायच्या आधी मी भूजलाच्या कामानिमित्त भारतातील विविध भागांमध्ये फिरलो- त्याची संधी मला मिळाली. महाराष्ट्रातील तर अनेक गावांमध्ये, प्रदेशांमध्ये काम करायची संधी मिळाली. मला नीट आठवतं की जेव्हा प्रत्येक वेळी मी कोणत्याही गावामध्ये गेलो तर मला नाव विचारायचे (ही गोष्ट शहरांमध्ये देखील तितकीच सर्रास आहे.). मी फक्त ‘धवल’ असे सांगायचो. लोक थोडे थांबायचे आणि न राहवून विचारायचे- धवल कोण? माझ्या आडनावाची चाचपणी करायचा प्रयत्न नेहमी व्हायचा. अनेक ठिकाणी मी धवल वर निभावून न्यायचो. वेळ आलीच तरी ‘जोशी’ असे सांगायचो. जोशी असण्याचा प्रश्न नाही पण जर जोशीपणा करून माणसातील माणूस म्हणून मी या जगाकडे पाहू शकत नसेन तर मला अश्या जगामध्ये काहीतरी चुकल्यासारखे वाटते. तसेच समोरच्याने मला ‘जोशीपणाच्या’ कक्षेत बसवले तर त्यांचे माझ्याविषयीचे मत, व्यवहार यावर त्याचा (चांगला-वाईट) परिणाम होईल.  

जातीव्यवस्था जरी आपल्या आयुष्यात भिनलेली असली तरी त्याचे वास्तव किंवा आपल्या जातीची जाणीव काही अनुभवांमधून आपल्याला होत असते. शाळेमध्ये असे पर्यंत मलातरी याची जाणीव कधीच झाली नाही (सवर्ण असल्याने असू शकेल). पण दोन घटना अश्या घडल्या की ज्यातून मला जातीव्यवस्थेचे वास्तव भिडले. पर्यावरण शास्त्राचा अभ्यास आणि आवड असल्याने आमच्या कल्याण मधील डम्पिंग ग्राउंड वरती अनेकदा चकरा झाल्या. हा एक टेक्निकल प्रश्न आहे आणि तो टेक्निकली म्हणजेच टेक्नॉलॉजीच्या साहाय्याने सोडवला पाहिजे अशी धारणा होती. अनेकदा फेऱ्या झाल्यावर उमगले की यामध्ये एक सामाजिक व्यवस्था दडली आहे. अजून खोलवर गेल्यावर कळले की काही ठराविक जातींमधील लोक या कामामध्ये आहे. मग लक्ष द्यायला लागलो आणि उमगले की कचरा उचलणाऱ्या गाड्या- त्यावर काम करणारे लोक, डम्पिंग ग्राउंड जवळील वस्ती ही सर्व काही ठराविक जातीच्या लोकांची आहे. म्हणजे थोडक्यात आपण आधुनिकता- (कचरा आणि डम्पिंग ग्राउंड ही आधुनिक म्हणवणाऱ्या शहरांमधीलच व्यवस्था आहेत)- स्वीकारली तरी त्याला नीट, हळुवार पणे शतकांपासून चालत आलेल्या जातीव्यवस्थेत बरोबर नेऊन बसवले. हे जसे कळले तसे टेक्नॉलॉजी, सायन्स याबद्दल थोडा क्रिटिकल झालो. म्हणजे हे महत्वाचे वगैरे आहेच, पण ज्या सामाजिक-आर्थिक आणि राजकीय व्यवस्थेत हे उपजतात त्याबद्दल जाणीव निर्मिती नसेल तर ‘अमुक अमुक टेक्नॉंलॉजीने गोष्टीने हा प्रश्न सुटेल’ अशी simplistic धारणा होऊ शकते.  

कल्याण मधील डम्पिंग ग्राउंड (सौजन्य- टाइम्स ऑफ इंडिया

दुसरा अनुभव म्हणजे मी आणि माझा मित्र किरण असे दोघेजण मिळून काही अभ्यासवर्ग किंवा क्लासेस चालवत होतो. त्यामध्ये काही मुलांना बोलतांना किंवा व्यक्त होतांना अडचणी येत, पण तेव्हा जाणवले नाही की यामागे अनेक शतकांची रचना कारणीभूत असेल. जेव्हा आपण आपल्या करिअरच्या प्रवासाविषयी बोलतो तेव्हा सहज म्हणतो- मी इथवर आलो ते माझ्या मेहनतीवर वगैरे. हे सगळे बरोबर आहे पण जसे शाहरुख खान म्हणतो की जब तुम कुछ दिल से चाहो तो सारी कायनात तुम्हे वो दिलानेकेलीये काम करती है’ असे काही. हे कायनात का काय म्हणतात ते काय असतं हे माहित नाही पण अश्या ज्या ‘इतर’ गोष्टी आहेत त्यामध्ये तुमचे नेटवर्क्स जे तुमच्या सामाजिक-आर्थिक परिस्थितीतून निर्माण होतात. नक्कीच मेहनतीला इथे मी कमी लेखत नाहीए पण एखाद्याच्या यशामध्ये अश्या contextual गोष्टींचा मोठा वाटा असतो. उदा. तुम्ही शाळेत असतांना तुमचे शिक्षक तुम्हाला थोडा उजवा भाव देतात हे आपल्याला तेव्हा लक्षात येत नाही पण स्वाभाविक पणे त्याचे परिणाम दूरवर होतात. अनेक लोक रिझर्वेशन बाबतीत बोलतात. मित्रांमधील चर्चेत ऐकायला येते- ‘या लोकांना’ पण त्याच कॉलेज मध्ये भेटले ऍडमिशन मग काय प्रॉब्लेम आहे वगैरे. पण आपल्या घरामधील अभ्यासासाठी पोषक वातावरण हे लोक विसरतात. तुमच्या पालकांमध्ये (अनेक सवर्ण) शिक्षणाबद्दल प्राधान्य अधिक असेल कारण तुमच्या २-३ पिड्यांनी त्याचा फायदा उपभोगला आहे, बघितला आहे. हेच दलित विद्यार्थ्यांबाबत बोलता येऊ शकत नाही. अनेकांच्या घरामध्ये तसे पोषक वातावरण नसते आणि त्याचा परिणाम त्यांच्या अभ्यासावर, शाळेवर होतांना दिसतो. अनेक अभ्यास याबद्दल झालेले आहे. (सांगायला आनंद होतो की या प्रश्नांवर काम करणारी एक संस्था आता कल्याणात आहे. सजग संस्थेचे काम अतिशय महत्वाचे आहे. तुम्ही देखील नक्कीच त्यांच्या कामाचा मागोवा घ्या आणि जमल्यास या कमला होईल तितके सहकार्य करा.)   

भूजलाला कुठे आली जात?  

पाण्याला जात नसती तर बाबासाहेब आंबेडकरांना १९२७ मध्ये चवदार तळ्यावर जाऊन पाणी ओंझळीत घेण्याची काहीच गरज नव्हती. आजदेखील अनेकदा आपण बघतो की गावांमध्ये इतकेच काय शहरांमध्ये देखील पाण्याची व्यवस्था ही वर्गवारी वेगवेगळी असते. भारतात जातीचे आणि वर्गाचे असे वेगळेच रसायन तयार होते आणि त्यातून अशी एक सामाजिक आर्थिक परिस्थिती निर्माण होते. माझ्या क्षेत्रकार्यात आलेले काही अनुभव आणि त्यातून जातीचा आणि पाण्याचा कसा संबंध लागला याबद्दल दोन अनुभव मांडतो.  

मराठवाड्यामध्ये आपल्याला गावोगाव आड दिसतात. असेच उमरग्यातील मधील एका गावामध्ये गेलो असता, हे आड जातीनिहाय वेगवेगळे आहेत हे आपल्याला दिसते. याचे कारण आपली गावं जातीच्या पातळीवर रचलेली असतात. त्यामुळे हा मराठ्यांचा आड, हा ब्राह्मणांचा आड, हा महारांचा आड, दलित वस्तीतील आड, अमुक वस्तीतील आड असे मला गावामध्ये दिसले. जमिनीखालील भूगर्भीय रचना जरी एक असली तरी जमिनीवर अशी जातनिहाय स्त्रोतांची रचना गावांमध्ये दिसली. अनेक गावांमध्ये आजदेखील ही कटाक्षाने पाळली जाते.  

गावांमधील दलित आदिवासी समाजातील महिलांचा मजुरीवर जाण्याचा वाटा मोठा आहे  

काही शेतकऱ्यांचा इंटरव्युव्ह घेत असतांना चर्चेत जेव्हा मजुरांचा विषय निघाला तेव्हा काही ठराविक जातीतील लोकांचं उल्लेख झाला. एका सवर्ण महिला शेतकऱ्यांशी बोलतांना ‘कांबळेच्या बाया’ असा उल्लेख झाला म्हणजेच गावामधील कांबळे समाजातील बायका मजुरीला येतात. वाडीवरील बाया (आदिवासी समाजातील) देखील मजुरीला येतात. इथे मला जेंडरचा प्रश्न दिसला. दलित समाजामधील महिला ह्या आपल्या सामाजिक रचनेमधील सर्वात कठीण किंवा पिचलेला वर्ग. महिलांच्या मजुरीच्या जोरावर आपल्याला आपली शेतीव्यवस्था टिकवता येतेय आणि तरीदेखील शेतीचे नाव घेतल्यास किंवा त्यातील दैनंदिन निर्णय म्हंटले की आपण आपसूकच पुरुषांकडे जातो. मजुरीमध्ये थेट दुप्पट दुजाभाव केला जातो. पुरुषांना जितकी मजुरी त्याच्या अर्धी किंवा निम्मी महिलांना अनेक ठिकाणी मिळते. 

एका अभ्यासकाने हे दाखवून दिले आहे की पाणी व्यवस्थापनामध्ये सध्या प्रचलित ठिबक आणि तुषार सिंचन हे जल अभ्यासकांच्या दृष्टीने ‘एफिशिअंट’ ठरते याचे कारण आहे महिला मजुरीचे शोषण. मला तर वाटायला लागले आहे की आपल्या शेती व्यवस्थेचा कणा ह्या महिला मजुरीवर अवलंबून आहे. यातून आपल्याला जात, जेंडर, संसाधनं (पाणी, जमीन इ) आणि अर्थकारण ह्याच्या क्लिष्ट संबंधांची कल्पना येते.  

वरील अनुभवांमधून आपल्याला आपल्या पोझीशनॅलिटी चे आकलन होते आणि आपण आपल्या कॉन्टेक्स्टचा किंवा पार्श्वभूमीची जाणीव अधिक बळकट करून एक चांगले अभ्यासकच नाही तर एक चांगला व्यक्ती देखील होऊ शकतो. बाबासाहेबांना अश्याच समतेवर, बंधुतेवर आधारित समाजाची अपेक्षा होती आणि तिथे जाण्यासाठी करायच्या विविध गोष्टींमध्ये एक आहे आपल्या पोझिशनविषयी थोडी जाणीव निर्मिती करणे. जात व्यवस्थेचा धिक्कार तर आहेच पण नुसता धिक्कार करून किंवा ‘मी मानत नाही’ असे सिम्पलीस्टीक बोलून चालणार नाही. यासाठी स्वतःमध्ये बदल घडणे गरजेचे आहे. आपल्याविषयी, आपल्या पोझिशन विषयी जाणीव वाढली तर ते शक्य होईल असे वाटते. 

मी जात मानत नाही पण… 

Doing interviews, coproducing groundwater: tracing the spatial, temporal and vertical (Part 2)

I have organised this article in three parts based on the three key areas of coproduction. Part 1 reflects upon words- words used everyday to describe the topography, the geology, the processes, and practices. Part two focuses on space- space that is not just horizontal but also vertical as we speak about groundwater. This verticality of space urges us to focus on another dimension, a dimension of depth, of thickness, of volume. The third part, that is closely associated and embedded (in some places) with space is that of time. Time is often looked upon as an axis for the past, present and the future, but the verticality of space urges us to look at it within the ground, processes that run across time and within time, occurring simultaneously. 

Sorry, can you say that again

In this first part, I want to draw the attention towards words- words describing groundwater, its understanding, processes, and practices. When I began the interviews, I came across many words which described the landscape and certain characteristics of these landscapes. ‘Raan’ is most used in Osmanabad to describe a land parcel, a farm. I have only encountered Raan in other geographies where it often refers to untended land, forest, etc. For eg. ‘Raan majlay’ was quite common phrase referring to vegetation that grown on land or farms that are not tended or looked after. However, in this field area, raan was used for everything about the landscape- in some places, farm, in some the landscape itself. What was interesting was it was also used to describe the verticality or depth of the landscape with changing rock types or geology while drilling a borewell- ‘raan badalalay’ (raan has changed)

The GSDA and CGWB descriptions of Osmanabad geology commonly use a phrase- ‘moderately dissected plateau’ which can be loosely translated into a description of an undulating topography. This seems to be a peculiar feature of the Deccan Basalt plateau which encompasses more than 80 percent of Maharashtra’s landmass. The GSDA reference manual says that ‘occurrence, storage and movement of groundwater is greatly controlled by morphological set up in Hard Rock terrain.’ Thus, attention to topographical features and its role in shaping water availability (and non), flows, storage and discharge is important. But how is such a moderately dissected plateau brought into everyday discussion. I was first introduced to it through words- words that caught my attention (for I have never heard them before or ignored them for common sense). Many farmers referred to ‘umata’ an upland feature in the watershed, while describing success of sources, duration of water availability in an area. ‘Umata’ were also those farmland parcels wherein water had to be transported through an intricate series of arrangements involving pumps, valves, and pipes. 

The seemingly flat landscape may mislead someone from recognising the relevance of ‘umata’ and ‘jhol’

Other words like lavan (describing the small streams in the area), chaval (a farmland that has peculiar character for water retention- due to its location in the valley area- which again has another word called jhola– opposite of Umata), vapsa (a condition of farm/land when it becomes-or is made suitable for sowing). These words are often associated with a physical/topographical feature, a phenomenon that occurs in the local landscape and thus forms the foundation of knowledge that shapes everyday practices.   

Encountering the water conservation structures in these interviews often meant their association through a particular programme rather than a focus on its properties (like earthen bund or cement bund, weir, bund etc.). For example, I encountered the most common intervention in watershed or water conservation called Cement Nalla Bund (a CNB) through different names and references- in one instance it was a KT Weir (Kolhapur Type Weir), in another it was a Vasant Bandhara (due to its associated with the Vasundhara watershed programme?), while someone pointed out it was a ‘naala bandh’. In such cases, an interview conducted in the farm revealed interesting insights than the same conducted in other settings (room, office etc.). 

Of patta, pokali and percolation

Space forms another dimension in my analysis of these interviews. How space is described and mobilised to draw attention to the processes and practices of groundwater has immense value to pursue such a coproduction of groundwater knowledge. 

While describing Deccan Basalts, the word ‘flows’ (or layer, in some places) is often used to identify rock strata that may be conducive or non-conducive for groundwater accumulation and movement (see this for example). I encountered these flows through ‘patta’ (literally belt) described by farmers as extensive subsurface belt of certain rock type that enables identification and movement of groundwater. It is interesting to note that I encountered ‘patta’ only in descriptions of shallow (or unconfined) aquifers or subsurface. Never I came across the word ‘patta’ to describe a spatial extent in context of deeper subsurface or confined aquifers. While assumptions about such patta did need observations of multiple open dugwells, the relative confidence while making these claims was much higher than the often ‘fate driven’ search for water in deeper spaces of the earth through drilling of borewells. 

Laal Patta (Red Belt/Layer) visible in a dugwell

In other instance, such a loose rock stratum, a stratum that is so porous that is makes it ‘mau’ (soft) in description was also referred as a ‘pokali’ (a vacuum). That groundwater is not available until the beginning of this strata of pokali. While this is not a literal vacuum but is occupied by extremely conducive rock types like the red layer or highly weathered vesicular basalt (mau manjarya), it was useful for bringing our attention to those shifts in imagination accompanied by possibility of groundwater in those spaces. I believe, these patta and pokali describe aquifers in the area that has shaped a collective experience of knowing, locating, and accessing groundwater. 

While discussing borewells, the talk often narrowed down, it moved towards experiences of the sources themselves and no major claims about the subsurface were discussed as seen in case of shallow aquifers. However, a typology of confined aquifers, deeper subsurface groundwater did emerge through those interviews. Through their experiences of drilling borewells and those of others in the village, a classification was brought into notice. It consisted of a Doh system (can be translated, in hydrogeological sense, into a perched aquifer type system) where the borewells did struck water but did not sustain over two or three seasons eventually becoming intermittent. ‘Doh’ means a small pond like water body- usually referred in case of surface water bodies. In other cases, thanks to ones nashib (fate), the borewell struck the jhara or a nasthat ensured a perennial and long-lasting source as compared to a doh. It is interesting to note the shift in describing groundwater in shallow and deeper systems. In shallow, reference to patta meant geological feature (lal gerucha patta) while an extension in deeper systems transformed into the water flow itself (‘panyacha’ jhara or ‘panyachi’ nas) rather than emphasizing the geological feature. This understanding about sources and through them about the subsurface has led to series of practices around borewells like transferring water from them to dugwells, reboring failed borewells, deepening the bore further to improve storage etc. 

Ballestero suggests that thinking about groundwater, thinking about these rock formations ‘require a form of volumetric thinking that is only possible by articulating horizontality and verticality’ (2019). It is here that I bring attention to this verticality of imagination, observation, and practices. In these interviews, verticality was brought into reference through two key points- water levels and depth of sources. While water levels fluctuated, depth was often static- a given character in the drama of groundwater. Though water levels are the most valued ‘data input’ to arrive at groundwater understanding, it was one of the most diversely understood parameter. Asking about ‘paani patali’ meant a variety of things and its context. For example, it was often associated with drought or water scarcity years. It was not seen as something that has progressed over the years (like water level has depleted) but rather something that fluctuates every year. 

The temporality of groundwater

Continuous use of groundwater leads to falling water levels over the years. An observer of data for many decades may easily reach to this conclusion. However, in the process, we miss the intergenerational aspects of such change. What was true for many older people in the village was a fiction for the younger farmers today. That streams in the village flowed even during the summers (little, but did flow), that dug wells needed to be only 25-30 feet deep can only be a fragment of old age imagination. This transformation of rural landscapes over decades has led to a transformation in ways of knowing groundwater, accessing, and using it. 

A newspaper article describing increase in post monsoon water level in the district

In short term-like within few years, this temporality, unlike a linear progression, shifts back and forth across the axis. Water levels, discussed above, are often changing- depleting and recovering, a phenomenon that was associated with series of related events- extraction for irrigation, transfers from deeper aquifers, droughts, rainfall (excess, unseasonal etc.). 

Many farmers complained about sources of groundwater drying up by March marking the beginning of a summer with scarce water supply, intermittent borewells, poorer recovery in dug wells etc. ‘Percolation’ while being a spatial process- movement of water from one point to other, also has a temporal component that is well understood by the users. Instead of taking permits for lift irrigation from tanks, farmers prefer to buy lands near tanks wherein restrictions on extraction during summers are not applied. In comparison, tanks, when they reach dead storage are banned from use for irrigation with confiscation of lifting devices, cutting off electricity supply etc. However, officials cannot restrict the process of percolation which causes water from the tank to percolate in the wells nearby. Thus, temporality of groundwater movement is well understood and mobilised by farmer community. 

Many of us often come across phrases/sentences like ‘our village our water’, ‘not letting any water outside our village’ etc. Farmers, though, in some parts of the watershed must pump out water from wells during the monsoons- a purposeful activity aimed at reducing soil moisture and thus water retention in farms, to ensure crop productivities. When asked if this counters the need for recharging more and more groundwater during and after monsoon on which many government programmes are focused, they suggested the inequities of land properties mandated some to undertake such an activity. The farmers in ‘chaval jameen’ (land prone to water retention) resorted to such an activity. It was a contradiction of sorts that a MGNREGA supported in-situ dugwell recharge programmes aims to do exactly the opposite. This seemingly rebellious act is not seen as one damaging the larger objective of improving groundwater situation in the village by letting off water ‘outside of the watershed or the aquifer’. 


Movement of groundwater is another aspect that I will write sometime soon. The reason is simple- the topic demands its own attention and much of the interventions or strategies for groundwater conservation, recharge and improving access have been shaped around theories and experiences of groundwater movement. Starting with the most basic as to why pumping one well (or not pumping) affects other wells in the vicinity, why most wells are near streams, why naala deepening benefits certain wells and not others, why are horizontal boreholes drilled in the dugwells, why drilling of one borewell leads to failure of other or why increasing borewells in a landscape lead to loss of water from dugwells. There are a lot of tensions, inconsistencies and substantiating examples emerging from pursuing these questions in the interviews, and I hope to write about it in the next blog. 

Doing interviews, coproducing groundwater: tracing the spatial, temporal and vertical (Part 1)

When interview research method meets groundwater

Interviewing is cornerstone of any qualitative research. There are many different approaches to organising and conducting these and I would not go into the details about their typologies as that is not the intention of this article. My key interest here is- what happens when the interview as a research method meets hydrogeology? What happens when interviews themselves and through them enable groundwater understanding? I trace these questions and put down my observations based on my experiences of using un/semi structured interviews during my PhD fieldwork. 

Before I dive in further into the article, I need to highlight that I am no expert when it comes to qualitative research or for that matter using/deploying research tools. Much of what is presented here is through my use of interviews ‘in the field’ and ‘through the process’ of evolving the approach. When I began the fieldwork, much of the discussions were unstructured that evolved into semi-structured method of interviews. However, the linearity as the earlier sentence suggests may not be visible in the process. 

I interviewed farmers, community members, Krushi mitra (agriculture extension officers), Jalsurakshak (water extension officer) and elected members of various village level committees. While I also interviewed scientists, government officials, and practitioners from NGOs as well as subject experts, much of the focus of this article and the emerging understanding is based on my interactions in the villages. I did much of this fieldwork in Osmanabad district of Maharashtra, although I also ventured in other districts a bit like Jalna and Ahmednagar. 

Doing interviews, coproducing groundwater

The reason I describe this as coproduction of groundwater is for two key reasons: as a researcher, I position myself with a background of working in this sector which brings in my own understanding to the field as well as to the process. In turn, this has led to shaping the approach I took for these interviews, the way questions were shaped and organised in the interviews and while conducting the interviews how the responses led to emerging questions which were again shaped by my understanding of the subject and field. Thus, at the outset, I want to shed the image of an ‘objective researcher’ towards the one of an ‘active researchers’ who equally contributed to the coproduction of this understanding presented here. 

Secondly, participant farmers and members of the community engaged with me through a certain notion of my background and identity- a urban, upper caste, researcher doing some research in a faraway university and someone, who possibly, may contribute to some beneficial work in the community/village. Having introduced through an NGO, this further escalated expectations that I did best to address but not quell. Recognising this mutual relationship was important in collectivising understanding of groundwater that led to its coproduction. 

The key contribution I wish to make through this article is to establish an approach that can inform ways of understanding groundwater beyond the ‘techniques of hydrogeology’- to develop understanding of groundwater through qualitative research methods that relies on oral histories, memories (individual and collective), everyday practices, experiential and traditional knowledge. Doing so, I hope it will contribute, through epistemological intervention, a shift from a techno-scientific discourse towards a more grounded and engaging process that values groundwater knowledge making as an everyday process . In doing so, I hope it also quells the dichotomy of indigenous vs modern knowledge, of good vs bad data, of scientific and superstition. 

Experiences across space and time

Like most interview situations, there are certain characteristics that determine the nature of the interview. I identify three: place where the interview is conducted, time of the year when the interview happens, and participant background, although, I think there may be many more. While participants background has been identified as an important criterion while doing and assessing interviews in many other settings, I would like to emphasize on the place and time of interviews from groundwater perspective. 

Water moves, stops, percolates, evaporates and saturates rocks. Water is pumped, contaminated, transported and stored. These things make it important to acknowledge and value the place and time of the interviews. I conducted most of the interview in the farms, near the wells, walking along the farm bunds, near the standing crops. I spoke to some farmers across the watershed, in upstream and downstream areas, near the stream and away from them, in irrigated farms, and in rainfed farms, near storage structures (like percolation tanks, storage tanks), and away from them. I did speak to some in their home, in their kitchen, understanding how water is brought in, or is supplied, how it is stored and used. These proved important as places determined the spaces that groundwater occupies and shapes- its flows, the porous rocks, directions of flow, behaviour of wells, ways of storing it, getting the infrastructure in place etc. 

At the same time, during what time of the year I conducted the interviews also shaped the discussions. While I began the discussions in the field as the summer of 2022 set in, many of the in-depth interviews began with the onset of monsoon. For example, interviews conducted in the summer consisted of observations and experiences during that period of the year- borewells stopping and starting, dug-wells being filled up from borewells, recovery of the well, new borewells being drilled etc. Interviews during the onset of monsoon focused on soil moisture, making land eligible for sowing, percolation from storages into dug-wells etc. Such diverse discussions meant a spectrum of groundwater practices and knowledges being dwelled upon. 

In the next part of the article, I will outline the key learning that has emerged from this experience. I have certain aspects that I have come to focus as I have begun re-hearing these interviews and in the process being transported back to those places and times of the year 2022.